Thai-Dk Din debat side

Oprettet af thai d. 13-07-2011 05:36

BURNING ISSUE
Dear Khun Thaksin, save your sister

Media reports of your active political role after the general election have worried me so much that I had to write this letter to you.
I believe that I share this feeling with many other Thais, whether they voted for the Pheu Thai Party or not. I accept the election result and am excited for Thailand to welcome its first woman prime minister.

Prime minister-to-be Yingluck Shinawatra is your younger sister and she just entered politics a few weeks before the election, but I hope she can be appointed the country's prime minister on her own merit.

It is undeniable that the overwhelming victory that Yingluck and her Pheu Thai Party scored was because of you, Khun Thaksin.

But although you are credited with bringing her up to this point, I think it's time for you to allow her to show her ability to the Thai public.

You don't need to leave her alone but you should just look after her from a distance and provide her support when necessary.

This is really different from what you're doing now - speaking and doing things as if you were the prime minister-elect without caring about any possible consequence.

As a new Thai government is taking shape, it appears you are dictating what the Yingluck administration should do, including details about its policies and the composition of its Cabinet.

This does not mean I'm encouraging you to do all these things secretly behind the scenes. No. In fact, I would like you to keep your hands off my next prime minister, although I'm aware that this could be just wishful thinking.

Today Khun Yingluck is not just your kid sister, she is going to become the country's prime minister. You should respect that. If not for Thailand's sake, it should be for her own sake.

I want the international community to accept Khun Yingluck as a credible and capable prime minister. I don't want her to be viewed as just a puppet or a political clown, with someone pulling the strings behind her back.

I believe you must agree with this, too.

Some people may view what you're doing as something against the law. You're now being deprived of your election rights and it's against the law for banned politicians like you to influence any political party's affairs.

Your political enemies will likely use this argument to take legal steps to dissolve the Pheu Thai Party.

However, what's more worrying for me is that what you're doing is going to undermine the credibility of my next prime minister and your own sister.

Some colleagues try to allay my concern by saying that you're likely going to change your role after Khun Yingluck officially becomes prime minister.

I can only hope they're right.

Yet, my brain tells me you still think this is all about you and I still have to worry about your role vis-à-vis Thai politics. This is why I decided to write this open letter to you.

Please save the prime minister of Thailand and your own sister.

People tell me you love her dearly, so please sacrifice your personal interests to prove it.

With sincere regards,

Somroutai Sapsomboon
http://www.nation...60155.html

Oprettet af pensionisten d. 13-07-2011 09:27

Her er lidt mere snavs fra rendestenen :VI

EC asked to dissolve 6 parties

Chaiwat Sinsuwong, secretary-general of the People's Assembly of Thailand, asked the Election Commission in a petition to dissolve six political parties for allowing people under a political ban to have a role in their affairs.

They are the Pheu Thai, Democrat, Bhumjaithai, Chartthaipattana, Chart Pattana Puea Pandin and Palang Chon parties.

Mr Chaiwat said in the petition that those under a five-year ban from politics had acted as if they were leaders and executives of the six parties.

He also submitted additional evidence to the EC to prove that Pheu Thai and the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) in fact were of the same political grouping.

The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) had evidence to show that Pheu Thai's candidate for prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra provided financial assistance amounting to 315-316 milion baht to support activities of the red shirts in 2009-2010, Mr Chaiwait said.

Mr Chaiwat said he would also petition the Senate speaker to remove all five members of the Election Commission for neglect of duty, resulting in about 2 million eligible voters to lose their right to vote in the July 3 election.

The Anti-Money Laundering Office (Amlo) would also be asked to investigate assets of the five EC members to find out if they had acquired extra wealth through bribery, he said.

Læst på http://www.bangko...-6-parties

Oprettet af thai d. 14-07-2011 02:50

det forsætter bliver der aldrig fred i landet

A new storm brewing?

Thailand will remain in suspense until Tuesday, when the Election Commission will decide on suspended PM-to-be Yingluck
http://www.nation...60239.html

Red shirts warn EC of backlash
Election watchdog fails to endorse group's leaders who won House seats
The red-shirt leadership yesterday warned the Election Commission of an angry backlash from the movement over its decision not to endorse any of its leaders who won places in the House of Representatives in the recent general election.
http://www.nation...60245.html

General alert
Army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha tells the incoming government not to interfere in military affairs - and lists why he should remain as commanding general.
http://www.bangko...-pheu-thai

Two more weeks
The Election Commission says it can officially announce virtually all results by July 28 - and called on politicians to stop paratisan pressure on the panel.
http://www.bangko...by-july-28

Pheu Thai is striking back and accusing the Democrats of cheating - but the People's Alliance for Democracy has gone to court to try to annul the entire July 3 election, on the grounds that millions of people were denied the chance to vote
http://www.bangko...lared-void

"Thaksin Thinks, Pheu Thai Acts"

Oprettet af pensionisten d. 15-07-2011 13:56

Endnu et forsøg på at kapre sympati og opbakning med det her forslag, men de får sgu et problem på Koh Samui hvor hovedparten af dem der arbejder på hotellerne er ulovlige indvandrere fra Burma beskyttet af det korrupte politi derovre. Men et godt forslag der bliver en billig omgang på øen, hvad bliver det næste, rejepillere i Lang Suan ??

The Pheu Thai Party plans to raise the minimum daily wage to 300 baht a day in provinces where tourism is more developed and the three major sources of funding will be the state budget, bonds and investment, Pheu Thai deputy leader Kanawat Wasinsungworn said on Friday.

"Once the 300 baht minimum wage policy kicks off, the minimum wage in all provinces will provinces will be increased.

Pheu Thai Party deputy leader Kanawat Wasinsungworn

"Some provinces will get a full 300 baht increase but some others won't. However other supportive measures for workers will be carried out to prevent workers from going to the provinces with 300 baht minimum wage only," Mr Kanawat said.

Other supportive measures might be raising production capacity and improving labour skills, he said.

The party's economic team member said Pheu Thai must listen to investment and private sectors before developing the most flexible minimum wage structure.

"Bangkok and its nearby provinces and other provinces that have a minimum wage close to 300 baht a day would get a full increase, and this also applies to provinces with major tourist destinations such as Phuket, Pattaya (in Chon Buri) and Samui (in Surat Thani)," Mr Kanawat said.

The party will have to consider if the minimum wage policy, if implemented, would affect small and medium businesses in each province, he added.

During the election campaign last month, Pheu Thai told the people it will raise minimum wages to 300 baht a day nationwide.

Læst her http://www.bangko...-wage-hike

Oprettet af pensionisten d. 15-07-2011 16:39

Her inden jeg går til køjs, skal i ha den her historie......

Snehvide og de 7 små dværge !!!!!!!

Believe it or not, there was a time when the Election Commission acted tough against big name politicians and managed to elicit applause from the public.

It was in 2000, to be exact, when the whole nation commended the election commissioners and Constitution Court judges for being brave and politically unbiased, simply because they did not care who the big fish were.

Those were the halcyon days for the "independent organisations" set up under the much-praised "People's Constitution" of 1997. One year before the EC swept away many high-flying senator candidates, powerful Democrat secretary-general Sanan Kachornprasart was indicted and banished from politics for faking a Bt15 million debt while declaring his assets and liabilities as a political office holder.

At that time, it didn't matter who you were. Election candidates belonging to the government side were disqualified for fun. Among them were Sanan's wife, Newin Chidchob's sister, provincial governors, influential military figures and close relatives of Cabinet members. You name it.

They were such a breath of fresh air that "The magnificent 14" - the nine members of the National Counter Corruption Commission and five election commissioners - were named The Nation's "Persons of the Year" for the year 2000.

What happened after that? There's no need to say. The same "independent bodies" credited for Sanan's shocking exit from politics and the fearless disqualification of powerful men running for office suddenly became worse than a paper tiger. They were accused of caving in to political pressure, of being biased in the government's favour. Charges of bribery plagued them.

After the Constitution Court acquitted Thaksin Shinawatra of share concealment in a murky verdict in 2001, the slide down the slippery slope has been irreversible. Every decision by the Constitution Court, the NCCC, the EC, the Supreme Administrative Court, as well as the Supreme Court's section for political office holders has been met with scepticism and criticism, and in many cases rightly so.

Who politicised the independent bodies and made them lose their integrity and credibility all at once? This is a question the new government must ponder very seriously. The Pheu Thai camp as well as its red-shirt supporters may believe that the country's political crisis began when the yellow shirts took to the streets to try to dislodge a vastly popular government, leading to the military coup in 2006. There are others, however, who believe that all the trouble began when the checks-and-balances mechanism began to unravel.

There were a few voices of discontent when Sanan was banned from politics for something seemingly as trivial as a Bt15 million debt that was not there. But they were drowned out by the strong, optimistic belief that such harsh constitutional action was designed for a long-term impact. In a political system so festered with graft, Sanan's fate was meant to sound a serious warning and create real fear.

It wasn't to be, as we know. The old culture of "political elite" - the thinking that people in power should escape any tough scrutiny, let alone punishment hit back. The rest is history.

Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin's youngest sister, is facing an EC ruling. It's too bad that this is an EC that has been transformed so much from the one that lashed out courageously and independently at any election candidate, no matter who the person was. Life is probably being unfair to Yingluck, and she may want to ask her big brother why.

It was not so long ago but so much has changed. A lot of people are saying that Thai politics is coming full circle, with the imminent return to power of the Thaksin camp. That the good old days before his time haven't even been mentioned speaks volumes.

Tulsathit Taptim

Kan læses her http://www.nation...60344.html

Oprettet af nnn d. 19-07-2011 15:29

#15

pensionisten skrev:
Så starter nedturen for Thailand !!

Yingluck, Abhisit endorsed by EC

The Election Commission has endorsed the election of Yingluck Shinawatra and Abhisit Vejjajiva, No 1 candidates of Pheu Thai and Democrat party lists, commissioner Sodsri Sattayatham said.

Mrs Sodsri said the EC's endorsement of Ms Yingluck and Mr Abhisit was unanimous.

The EC also certified the election of 10 other elected candidates, including Suthep Thaugsuban, Chinnicha Wongsawat and Thanin Jaisamut.

Other MPs-elect including leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) had not yet been endorsed, she said.

Mrs Sodsri was confident the EC would be able to gradually endorse the remaining MPs-elect needed to meet the required number of at least 475 in time for the opening of the new House of Representatives.

The EC's next meeting to certify MPs-elect would be held on July 21, she said.

http://www.bangko...t-endorsed

Altså kan man om kort tid købe en Ipad billigt ((5))

Der er noget, der tyder på, at du har en krystalkugle, og den trænger sikkert til at blive pudset, den er sikkert lige så sort som din mening om den nærmeste fremtid for Thailand..

Men selv om du tror, at der kommer en nedtur for Thailand, glæder du dig lidt over, at du snart kan købe en Ipad billigt ! Tsk tsk !

Så med andre ord mener du vel: der er ikke noget, der er så skidt, at det ikke er godt for noget.

Måske kan behjertede mennesker her på thaidk lave en indsamling til fordel for mennesker, der ikke har råd til en Ipad.

Altså efter at det har vist sig, at din spådom forhåbentlig ikke går i opfyldelse.

nnn

Oprettet af pensionisten d. 20-07-2011 03:02

#16

Næh, jeg har såmænd ingen krystalkugle. Men jeg følger nyhederne og reaktionerne verden rundt, og alle til hobe undrer sig over hvordan et parti på forhånd kan tillade sig at hive 40 MBht ud af budgettet for at kapre stemmer hos de mindrebemidlede !!

Og det var skrevet med et ironisk glimt i øjet med hensyn til de billige I pad, for samtidig med at så godt som ingen (ifølge regeringens egne undersøgelser) aner hvordan man bruger en Ipad, er Thaksins løfte om også gratis Internet en bombe under teleudbyderne.

For at det løfte skal blive realitet, er det vel nærliggende at tro på at en nationalisering for at kunne opfylde det løfte, for hvem giver noget gratis væk ?? Og bortset fra det, er Ipad stuntet en lige så stor bombe under Apple som nu får smadret sit marked i Thailand og de nærliggende lande når de fremmede ting som Ipaden er for eleverne, begynder at komme billigt til salg og flyde over grænserne.

Der skal ikke herske nogen tvivl om at jeg mener at det i en meget mindre skala, er godt for fremskridtet i Thailand, men alt med måde og ikke som i det her tilfælde hvor det er betaling for at stemme på søster, altså ikke et normalt fremskridt, eller en naturlig udvikling !!

Hvis du følger nyhederne om cirkuset, vil du kunne læse at Thaksin koordinerer sine udtalelser med udviklingen i søsters nominering. Han alene styrer løjerne og udtaler nu smart nok at straffen han fik på 2 år er for høj, altså kan højesteret nu nedsætte straffen betydeligt så han kan komme t ilbage og leve 14 dage i luksus fængsel, istedet for den kontroversielle amnesti som ikke får opbakning blandt befolkningen.

Han er ikke god for Thailand, men han skal have den ros at han er en fremragende dygtig strateg !!!

Oprettet af thai d. 20-07-2011 03:04

#17

her er lidt om fremtiden virker den lys næppe

STOPPAGE TIME
Six booby traps waiting to blow a hole in Yingluck's government

Every fairy tale has to end with an inauguration ceremony of some kind.

The simple reason why is that all hell usually breaks loose afterwards. To Yingluck Shinawatra, the Election Commission has presented either the final obstacle to what is seen by some as a romantic political journey, or the first real glimpse of what lies beyond the shower of flowers, cheers and adulation from her supporters.

Yesterday's belated endorsement by the EC shattered the slight possibility that the inauguration might collapse and she might be mercifully spared all the menace knocking on the prime ministerial door. Already, her Pheu Thai Party is admitting that a "big mess" awaits Thailand's first female leader, and, for all its tendency to exaggerate, this one is a spot-on assessment. Where Pheu Thai is possibly wrong is the assumption that the looming misery is something exclusively left behind by the Democrats.

Whether Abhisit Vejjajiva's party is to be blamed, or the "big mess" originated from somewhere else, a floodgate of serious problems is set to open sooner rather than later. Dealing with them will not be easy, but first she will have to prioritise them, which is equally difficult.

Here's my little bit to help. It is not a "Dos and Don'ts" list. Some problems will definitely come whether she courts them or not. It's just the way things are after a fairy tale. This severity ranking, which, of course, is subjected to possible changes, is my thought on what Yingluck should be afraid, or very afraid, of:

Wealth declaration. This is by no means a Democrat mess. Yingluck said a lot during Thaksin's assets trial and she could now get entangled in her own words. One may get away with millions of baht, or even tens of millions of baht, that went missing between then and now, but hundreds of millions of baht would be hard to ignore and easy to trace. If she said she owned something back then, she could be asked where that something is now. One mistake and she could be accused of perjury or indicted for filing a false assets report.

Severity rating: 8

The Cabinet landmines. How many red shirts will be ministers? How to choose a new chief of defence that won't send the over-sensitive Thai military ballistic? How can she avoid, or conceal, Thaksin's fingerprints in the Cabinet set-up? Who should be the foreign minister, with so many hot potatoes waiting?

Good news is, a Cabinet can always be formed against all odds. Bad news is, when a government becomes weak immediately, this is when seeds of instability are irretrievably planted.

Severity rating: 7

The amnesty death trap. Yingluck can't get enough warnings over this. Even some of her moderate supporters have begun to agree that any attempt to absolve Thaksin Shinawatra, no matter how well and seemingly fairly it is plotted, will shove the new government to the brink.

In an interview aired by TPBS on Monday night, Thaksin was asked why he couldn't just "do a Nelson Mandela" and get it over with. He reiterated he would never spend a single day in jail for a crime he said he did not commit. The impasse, therefore, remains, but that doesn't mean Yingluck has to bridge it. She will have to resist the strong urge and pressure to absolve him, though.

Severity rating: 9

The impossible promises. So much fuss has been made about the "impracticality" of Pheu Thai's economic and welfare pledges, like Thais have never been lied to. Truth is, "It's all about Thaksin, stupid". As long as Yingluck doesn't touch the amnesty, she can go on breaking her election promises all day and the most she'll lose is her face, not her job.

Severity rating: 3

The black Cambodian comedy. Good news is, the yellow shirts are virtually blaming the outgoing Abhisit government for everything related to our eastern neighbour. Bad news is, the Democrat leader never hugged Hun Sen so passionately and spent quality time with the Phnom Penh head's innermost circle.

More good news is, the Democrat leader never hugged Hun Sen so passionately and spent quality time with the Phnom Penh head's innermost circle. (Yes, you read it right. All I'm saying is "the hug" can either be good for Yingluck, or blow up in her face if things go seriously wrong between the two countries).

Latest signs from the International Court of Justice suggest it is too diplomatic to embarrass either country, and at least a year will pass before the ICJ "clarifies" its 1962 Preah Vihear Temple verdict.

But Veera Somkwamkid and Ratree Pipattanapaiboon remain in Cambodian jail and doubts remain over whether they will accept Thaksin's helping hand.

All in all, there will be occasional excitement, but nothing that smart diplomacy can't handle. As long as the Yingluck government doesn't give Cambodia a lucrative something, like a gas concession, while conceding Thai border "sovereignty", that is.

Severity rating: 6

The Thaksin big bang. This is last but not least. Contacts with the man when Pheu Thai was in opposition were one thing, but flying to see him, having him phone in, or letting him publicly dispense advice to the government from now on could trigger a catastrophe.

Yingluck and many Pheu Thai members will be "state officials" in a few days and Thaksin remains a fugitive convict. Every law requires her to find his whereabouts or seek his arrest, and her opponents will take full advantage of that. They will keep their radar on around the clock, not for whether she will fulfil that obligation, but for whether she or other government officials are keeping in contact with him.

Fair or unfair, this is potentially a nuke that could blow the new government away. All it'll take to detonate is a wayward Cabinet member found in Dubai or Brunei or a loose-tongued justice minister who announces "I talked to him last night."

http://www.nation...60661.html

Oprettet af pensionisten d. 21-07-2011 04:08

#19

Lidt læsning til morgenkaffen ((5))

Thailand may lose Bt100 billion per year in foreign direct investment (FDI) if the new government immediately raises the daily minimum wage to Bt300, the Joint Standing Committee on Commerce, Industry and Banking (JSCCIB) says.

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Chairman Dusit Nontanakorn yesterday said the minimum wage in Malaysia was 10 per cent higher than the minimum wage in Thailand, whereas in Indonesia it was 10-20 per cent lower.

If Thailand adjusts the daily minimum wage to Bt300 throughout the country, it will be more expensive than other production bases in Southeast Asia. In the long term, foreign investors may consider relocating to other countries such as Vietnam, he said.

Thailand attracts FDI of about Bt400 billion per year. If the country raises minimum wages, FDI is likely to drop 25 per cent per year or Bt100 billion, he said.

Dusit said he had discussed the issue with many foreign chambers of commerce in Thailand. Most said foreign investors considered competitiveness before deciding to invest in a country. If labour costs rose, some investors could relocate to other countries and it would be very difficult to bring them back.

"The Asean Economic Community will happen in the next four years. Investors have many choices for their investments. It is not necessary for them to stick with Thailand all the time," he said.

Dusit said that in the short term, about 90 per cent of small and medium-sized enterprises would be affected, as they would not be able to absorb the increased costs.

The JSCCIB is ready to discuss the policy with the new government to find a way to reduce its impact, he said.

Payungsak Chartsuthipol, chairman of the Federation of Thai Industries, said the daily minimum wage should be adjusted through the Wage Tripartite Committee without political interference. If the Pheu Thai-led government insisted on the policy, the FTI would require it to pay the wage difference.

In a separate matter, Payungsak said the Thai Industries Sentiment Index (TISI) in June dropped to 107.4 from 108.3 in May because of higher oil prices, financial problems in Europe and concern about political problems.

Flooding in Northern provinces was also a concern for industrialists, as it was affecting production volumes.

http://www.nation...60764.html

Over the next three months, the TISI is forecast to increase slightly to 113.5 from 111.2 in May, reflecting industry confidence in terms of orders, sales and production volume.