Debatemne: Thai-Dk Din debat side :: THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THAILAND IS ED

Oprettet af claus31130 d. 22-03-2009 10:26
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Fandt den her inde på Bangkok Post synes det er meget godt skrevet......noget er der nok om snakken


COMMENTARY
THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THAILAND IS ED

By: VORANAI VANIJAKA
Published: 22/03/2009 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: News

I live maybe 200 metres from a police station, and roughly the same distance from a public park where every night prostitutes openly work the streets.

Huh? What? Why? How? Something's wrong with this picture.

I watched the censure debate - a gathering of the country's brightest and ... Whoa! Sorry, my fingers slipped off the keyboard ... noblest, those whom we elect to govern us - and saw one politician flip-off another. I heard curses and name-calling. I listened to gibberish, nonsense. I watched two female MPs ripping into each other like jealous little schoolgirls.

Huh? What? Why? How? Something's wrong with this picture.

I read in the Bangkok Post that the opposition barely made a dent in the government, while Post Today said the government was battered and bruised.

Huh? What? Why? How? I'm not saying which paper is correct, my question is: Are we watching the same censure debate? Something's wrong with this picture.

While watching opposition leader Chalerm Yubamrung, I thought hmm ... Thaksin Shinawatra, to many he's the greatest leader, the saviour, the embodiment of democracy - but his hand-picked predecessors included a right-wing militant and chef who denies historical facts such as the Oct 1973 massacre, his own brother-in-law and now, frankly, someone who many perceived as a common thug.

Huh? What? Why? How? Something's wrong with this picture.

Then there's a banned politician, Newin Chidchob, so influential in the current government - and a foreign minister who took the airport hostage. Huh? What? Why? How? Something's wrong with this picture.

You see, being a Thai is no easy thing. On a daily basis, one is bombarded by questions (whether posed by others or posed by oneself) that makes one thinks to oneself: "Huh? What? Why? How? Bah! To hell with this, I'm going to pack my bags and move to Dubai."

Below the belt jab aside, from going "Huh? What? Why? How?" for about a day, a Bangkok Post reader up in Chiang Mai incidentally helped to answer my dilemma by emailing me to ask me to help answer one of her own dilemmas.

Here's what she sent in:

"Why does the 21-year-old reasonably intelligent, educated boy who lives with us not know the name of the head of Cambodia ... or why does he think Hungary is next to Canada? And why, after his ignorance being revealed, does he have absolutely no interest in finding out? My four-year-old shot straight upstairs to get the globe of the world so I could show him. Ed [the Thai boy] went back to the lottery numbers, the soapie stars and the football pages but still thinks the government should pay him to 'learn', as he puts it."

That is the answer - the answer to the unbearable lightness of being clueless in Thailand. It's Ed's fault. Ed just doesn't care. Ed is the embodiment of the majority of us Thais - we just don't care. Rotten politics? Social illnesses? Country falling apart? The people responsible are getting away with it. Ed just doesn't care.

There will always be people lying, cheating, abusing, exploiting and tearing a country apart. But for Thailand, and many countries like ours, they get away with it. They get away with it, because Ed lets them get away with it. Ed lets them get away with it, because Ed just doesn't care.

Ed isn't just some 21-year-old kid who lives with the family of a Bangkok Post reader up in Chiang Mai. We all know Ed. Ed exists in every family, ever office and every circle of friends. Ed is everywhere ... and Ed just doesn't care.

Which is exactly why Thailand has always been slow to progress, moving like a pregnant yak. Which is why Thai democracy struggles, crawling on its belly. For democracy to work, Ed has to care. Ed has to get involved. Ed has to participate. Democracy is a government by the people, a government by Ed.

Why should the police care, if Ed doesn't care? Why should politicians care, if Ed doesn't care? Why should the military care, if Ed doesn't care? Why should the "elite" care, life for them is already wonderful. Democracy is the government by Ed and for Ed, not by the police, the politicians, the military or the elite.

But Ed doesn't care. Ed may wake up one morning every four years and go to vote. But other than that, Ed just doesn't care. It is no surprise that Ed often ends up voting for the wrong people. Ed is clueless. How could anyone expect him to be an informed voter.

Because of Ed, Voranai too is clueless, muttering "Huh? What? Why? How?" when he watches the censure debate and when he simply looks around at his country and society in general.

Cluelessness is quite contagious.

To solve the cluelessness of Ed, the exploitation of Thai democracy and the abuse of Thailand - the first step we Thais have to take is to learn to care - and don't believe everything that's printed in the newspaper.

How to get Ed to care? Someone has to provoke Ed's interests, to capture Ed's attention and to tickle Ed's brain. Since Ed doesn't like to read, but loves watching TV, perhaps someone should give me a TV show. We can call it The Ego has Landed, since my nickname is Go, not Ed, and I care that Ed doesn't care.

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Oprettet af manse d. 22-03-2009 10:36
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Kære Claus

Tak for dette indlæg, for det fører tankerne hen på, at thailænderne jo også kan se, at der er noget der sker ud over deres egen næsetip. Men problemet for os der bor så isoleret herude væk fra turiststederne, ja vi oplever jo nok ikke disse ting, måske godt, måske ikke.

Tak endnu engang

Manse

Oprettet af claus31130 d. 22-03-2009 10:45
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Det fik jo da mig til at tænke lidt på,hvor mange her i landsbyen der mon interesserer sig en døjt for hvad der foregår andre steder,de har nok at gøre med at skrabe penge sammen til næste måneds afdrag på motorcyklen og spillegælden......hvad der foregår uden for deres amphur ved de fleste ikke noget om.....
Skal måske lige her tilføje at jeg bor ude i en landsby med måske max 150 indbyggere ude in the middle of nowhere....

Oprettet af manse d. 22-03-2009 11:01
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Ja kære Claus

Det spilleri skulle forbydes, men det er jo desværre altid sådan, at når man ikke har noget, håber man på den store gevinst... Det du omtaler med afdrag på det ene og andet, ja det sker vil jeg tro over hele Thailand, for sådan er det bare, Selv større byer som vores her i Nakhon Sawan er jo også opdelt i disse amphur, og her er det det samme.

Jeg tror ikke vi kan gøre så meget ved det udover at håbe, at vores koner ikke går igang med noget sådant. Jeg har set nok af dette med konens veninder og andre familie medlemmer. Jeg tror jeg nu er blevet kold over for dette, og pure nægter at hjælpe mere, hårdt men man er nødt til det, for at få det stoppet.

hilsen

Manse

Oprettet af helge d. 22-03-2009 17:33
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Undervisningsformen i Thailand er et problem.
Det er den gamle "gentag efter mig" form, og eleverne lærer ikke-og bliver ikke opfordret til, at tænke selv.

Jeg har ladet mig fortælle, at sat på spidsen, så er det almindeligt, at læreren læser op fra en bog, hvorefter eleverne skal skrive det i deres hæfter.
De engagerede lærere skriver det på tavlen:D

Måske er det en skrøne; jeg har måske læst det hos Stickman:MU

Jeg vil gerne opfordre alle, som har mulighed, til at læse Voronai i Bangkok Post. Han har en klumme om søndagen, og der er altid noget at komme efter.

Oprettet af helge d. 22-03-2009 17:38
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Jos:
Jeg har unge venner som blot siger "change of subject" - hvis talen falder på militærkup, Thaksin eller efterårets PAD optøjer - fordi de gider ikke diskutere det,

Eller er de utrygge ved at diskutere sådanne ting, eller er de utilpasse ved at blotlægge deres fædrelands mangler overfor en fremmed?

Redigeret af helge d. 22-03-2009 17:39

Oprettet af helge d. 22-03-2009 17:42
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Jos;
Abhisit virker faktisk meget sikker på at det han (og regeringen) gør, er det rigtige og den rette vej frem (og jeg er ikke nødvendigvis uenig

Håber at din fornemmelse er rigtig, men har på fornemmelsen, at dette bare er gamle gaver i ny indpakning. Desværre

Oprettet af yindee d. 22-03-2009 18:01
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Abhisit har efter min mening den dynamik og karisma der skal til for at komme ud over kanten, og ja jeg fulgte også de 2 dages censurdebat i TV - der blev langet lussinger ud, og politikere i Thailand er ikke alle lige pæne i munden for at sige det mildt, men jeg mener nu heller ikke at oppositionen evnede at føre en politisk debat, og det er jo det der skaber usikkerhed, hvis politikken vakler - eller politikerne ikke selv tror på politikken de fører, og Abhisit virker faktisk meget sikker på at det han (og regeringen) gør, er det rigtige og den rette vej frem (og jeg er ikke nødvendigvis uenig)...


jeg er meget enig med dig Jos38

Abhisit har boet og fået sin uddannelse i england han tænker nok lidt anderledes end alm Thaier jeg håber og tror på fremtiden bliver lidt bedre med Abhisit ved roret

Oprettet af helge d. 22-03-2009 18:26
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Jos:
Nej - jeg tror ikke at Stickman har bevæget sig helt ud til en skole, der er jo forbud mos alkohol

Den notoriske Stickman er da vist skolelærer, eller hur ?

Efter benovelsen over din trefoldige besvarelse af mit svar til dig, kun dette:
Jeg har lige set dine fine billeder på Thailand.dk.
Du har tabt nogle kilo. unge mand. Har det været strabaserende ?

Og jeg kan slet ikke genkende Si fra det billede du engang postede fra Angkor.
Hun virkede så "knibsk" på det billede. (Husker du at vi snakkede om: Sanook,la?)
Hun er jo en skønhed, mand:TUP

Redigeret af helge d. 22-03-2009 18:27